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bigmag
05-30-2013, 06:21 PM
Hi FYI
From http://prezi.com/fnil4s-yei7l/untitled-prezi/

RT-AC68U
The most powerful wireless router
World's fastest data rate at 1.9 Gbps
AiRadar beamforming for best Wi-Fi performance
Dual-core CPU enhances overall performance

humba
05-31-2013, 05:54 PM
I tried with speed permutations that include 160MHz channels - but 1900? Going 160MHz would double the rate of a single AC channel - so perhaps 1x 160MHz, 2x 80MHz + 1 N channel would nearly make 1900Mbit/s (1882), but would conflict with the 3 N channel assertion.
I guess we'll get the explanation once Computex gets underway..

RMerlin
05-31-2013, 06:14 PM
I tried with speed permutations that include 160MHz channels - but 1900? Going 160MHz would double the rate of a single AC channel - so perhaps 1x 160MHz, 2x 80MHz + 1 N channel would nearly make 1900Mbit/s (1882), but would conflict with the 3 N channel assertion.
I guess we'll get the explanation once Computex gets underway..

Keep in mind that the AC1900 moniker is nothing more than marketing branding - it is in no way a technical specification. And it is about an unannounced product, so it could very well be totally wrong as well (try an AC1900 search on Google to see what I mean).

thiggins
05-31-2013, 07:26 PM
Keep in mind that the AC1900 moniker is nothing more than marketing branding - it is in no way a technical specification. And it is about an unannounced product, so it could very well be totally wrong as well (try an AC1900 search on Google to see what I mean).Yeah, the numbers don't add up. I don't think they are going to 4x4 or 160 MHz channels. See this Stream/Rate/Channel Width summary (http://smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-features/31694-a-different-spin-on-80211ac)

thiggins
06-01-2013, 09:15 AM
802.11n allows four spatial streams in a 40Mhz channel for 600 Mbps. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11n#Data_rates

Will be interesting to see the chipset they use for that...

maylyn
06-01-2013, 10:11 AM
Hmm

I was told AC1900 is constructed in this manner, up for thoughts and discussion

me 10.

how did they come up with AC1900 ?
AC1750 is 450 from 2.4Ghz, and 1300 from 5GHz

AC1900 ~ 5GHz (1300Mbps 3 spatial streams) + 2.4GHz (600Mbps 3 spatial streams) so i was told ;)

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r254/maylyn22/ASUS%20RT-AC68U/ofSpatialStreams.png (http://s146.photobucket.com/user/maylyn22/media/ASUS%20RT-AC68U/ofSpatialStreams.png.html)

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r254/maylyn22/ASUS%20RT-AC67U/ASUSRT-AC67U-2.png (http://s146.photobucket.com/user/maylyn22/media/ASUS%20RT-AC67U/ASUSRT-AC67U-2.png.html)

arul
06-02-2013, 12:51 PM
awhhhsummmm!

XFalconX
06-02-2013, 10:01 PM
Definitely interested in this router. Any info on release date or pre-orders?


Sent from my iPhone

Adamm
06-03-2013, 10:43 AM
Looks like it was officially announced today at computex. No release dates as of yet or price

klas
06-03-2013, 02:55 PM
Will be getting it as soon as it's out. We'll see how it stacks up against wonderful R6300.

dunkin
06-03-2013, 03:22 PM
Does it have external antenna or not?

bigmag
06-03-2013, 03:49 PM
Yes he have 3

See the pictures

civuck
06-03-2013, 04:49 PM
AC1900 ~ 5GHz (1300Mbps 3 spatial streams) + 2.4GHz (600Mbps 3 spatial streams) so i was told ;)
It doesn't seem there is a "3 stream / 600Mbps Wireless-N" combination according to this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IEEE_802.11n#Data_rates).


The 1900Mbps spec could be marketing smoke&mirrors for this theoretical & concurrent throughput combination:

5Ghz Wireless-AC (1300Mbps / 3 stream) + 5Ghz Wireless-N (300Mbps / 2 stream) + 2.4Ghz Wireless-N (300Mbps / 2 stream).

Although it would seem to make sense that 3 stream Wireless-N @ 450Mbps would be used for a total theoretical throughput of 2200Mbps.

thiggins
06-03-2013, 04:50 PM
Inside Story: ASUS RT-AC56U & RT-AC68U (http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-features/32120-inside-story-asus-rt-ac56u-and-rt-ac68u)

RMerlin
06-03-2013, 05:14 PM
Inside Story: ASUS RT-AC56U & RT-AC68U (http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-features/32120-inside-story-asus-rt-ac56u-and-rt-ac68u)

I can confirm that the RT-AC56U does have 128 MB of Flash. Samsung-branded NAND.

deagle
06-03-2013, 07:23 PM
Does the SoC have hardware crypto acceleration? Trying to decide between this and a EdgeMax Lite + Unifi AC combo... obviously Asus would be a lot cheaper.

DaveMishSr
06-03-2013, 09:03 PM
I have read that the RT-AC67U has been re-designated as the RT-AC68U. Is this true? Would anyone like to shed some light on this?

RMerlin
06-03-2013, 09:41 PM
That's correct.

netmik3
06-04-2013, 05:00 PM
Man can't wait to get this fat ass router.
Skipped the ac66u since i don't need ac, why get this? Finally a cpu upgrade!

thiggins
06-04-2013, 05:14 PM
Man can't wait to get this fat ass router.
Skipped the ac66u since i don't need ac, why get this? Finally a cpu upgrade!Don't get caught up in the marketing hype.

I haven't seen significant performance improvements on other BCM4708-based routers so far.

DaveMishSr
06-04-2013, 06:41 PM
Man can't wait to get this fat ass router.
Skipped the ac66u since i don't need ac, why get this? Finally a cpu upgrade!
I would love to see the price structure for this beast. With a new dual CPU architecture I would imagine it will be well north of $200. The RT-AC66U should come down in price once this thing is out in the mainstream and is plenty of router for the average individual. My two AC66U's were both open box specials and cost me $255 for both. I bet that will be close to the MSRP for the RT-AC68U.

RMerlin
06-04-2013, 08:19 PM
Don't get caught up in the marketing hype.

I haven't seen significant performance improvements on other BCM4708-based routers so far.

The areas where this new CPU will be of benefit:

- People using the VPN server (either Asus's PPTP, or Tomato/A-M OpenVPN)
- People with a lot of clients sharing files over USB
- People who can't use HW acceleration because they use QoS. (lack of HW acceleration drops max WAN speed from 700+ Mbps to around 150 Mbps on an RT-N66U, about 240 Mbps on an RT-AC56U).

Note that the R6250 does not have both CPU cores enabled, so it's not a good test case.. No idea about the DLink/Linksys products.

I can see in the latest FW code I got from Asus last week that they are making efforts to specifically optimize the FW for taking advantage of the two CPU cores.

The faster CPU will not have a big impact on your actual wireless performance, but it will have a measurable effect for people heavily using a shared USB disk or using features that disables HW acceleration.

deagle
06-07-2013, 06:44 PM
What about hardware acceleration for encryption?

thiggins
06-07-2013, 06:58 PM
http://www.broadcom.com/products/Wireless-LAN/802.11-Wireless-LAN-Solutions/BCM4707-4708-4709

Don't think so. That's not its focus.

jemz0r
06-08-2013, 12:59 AM
Note that the R6250 does not have both CPU cores enabled, so it's not a good test case..


Wooo.. this is interesting.
Do you a source for this information?

RMerlin
06-08-2013, 01:23 PM
Wooo.. this is interesting.
Do you a source for this information?

The /proc/cpuinfo output from two different owners. And some inside info about the future availability of this feature.

Gingernut
06-09-2013, 03:30 AM
Netgear specifically states on their site that the R6250 has a dual core cpu.

'The dual-core 800 MHz processor delivers high-performance connectivity'

Maybe the other core comes online under heavy load only?

netmik3
06-09-2013, 05:56 AM
Is BIG.little a possibility?

RMerlin
06-09-2013, 02:29 PM
Netgear specifically states on their site that the R6250 has a dual core cpu.

'The dual-core 800 MHz processor delivers high-performance connectivity'

Maybe the other core comes online under heavy load only?

No. It was deliberately disabled by them. I got confirmation of it from an inside source.

Same thing with the missing 128 MB of RAM - router should have 256 MB, but Netgear only enabled the first 128 MB.

netmik3
06-10-2013, 04:57 PM
That's why netgear sucks and I moved to ASUS.

"Our router has a dual core cpu*"

*We use grade B cpus which have the second core disabled.

RMerlin
06-10-2013, 05:10 PM
That's why netgear sucks and I moved to ASUS.

"Our router has a dual core cpu*"

*We use grade B cpus which have the second core disabled.

From what I understand, it's something that will be enabled in a future FW update (like with the missing 128 MB of RAM).

The product (R6250) feels rushed to the market to me, while Asus is taking their time with the AC56 and AC68 to release something that's actually finalized. That's the best way to build a long-term customer base IMHO.

klas
06-12-2013, 06:23 PM
Did they say when it will be released?

RMerlin
06-12-2013, 09:29 PM
Did they say when it will be released?

I don't know anything more, since this was all relayed to me by Netgear customers. You will have to contact them to ask them if they have any ETA, all my contact said was "in a future update".

Константин
06-15-2013, 09:18 AM
I don't know anything more, since this was all relayed to me by Netgear customers. You will have to contact them to ask them if they have any ETA, all my contact said was "in a future update".


And what can you say about ETA for 68/56? August?

RMerlin
06-15-2013, 02:10 PM
And what can you say about ETA for 68/56? August?

56 was aimed at late June or sometime in July. No idea about 68.

wickedny5
07-02-2013, 02:08 AM
Sold my n66u, hoping the ac68u will provide better range and throughput in my wifi congested apartment complex.

RMerlin
07-02-2013, 02:43 AM
Sold my n66u, hoping the ac68u will provide better range and throughput in my wifi congested apartment complex.

If your complex is suffering from an overcrowded wifi space, then no router is going to magically be able to deal with it, at least not on the 2.4 GHz band. You will have to go wired, powerline, or 5 GHz to work around the problem.

The RT-AC68U won't be out for months anyway.

icemankent
08-18-2013, 09:36 PM
Geez, it is almost September.
WHEN is this router going to be released ?!

RMerlin
08-18-2013, 10:10 PM
Geez, it is almost September.
WHEN is this router going to be released ?!

Same answer as last time: there is no target release date announced yet.

Tsun
08-29-2013, 06:10 PM
Apparently RT-AC68U is going on sale next week in Singapore:
http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/feature-comex-2013-preview-let-bargain-hunting-begin

I hope US release will follow soon.

elpibe10
08-29-2013, 10:11 PM
I hope US release will follow soon.

Same here. Definitely not paying the exorbitant US$310 (S$399) SRP here in Singapore.

sm00thpapa
08-30-2013, 04:37 AM
Anyone know the release date of this router?

primitivo
08-30-2013, 08:26 AM
Same here. Definitely not paying the exorbitant US$310 (S$399) SRP here in Singapore.

Is it confirmed price in SG?
There was no info at all about possible release dates or even CPU specs and it suddenly comes out next week? :confused:

elpibe10
08-30-2013, 09:29 AM
Is it confirmed price in SG?
There was no info at all about possible release dates or even CPU specs and it suddenly comes out next week? :confused:

It'll be retailing in Singapore on Sep 5 :
http://www.hardwarezone.com.sg/feature-comex-2013-preview-let-bargain-hunting-begin
(scroll down and you'll see the router there)

Suggested Retail Price here :
http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/79106679-post1072.html

Tsun
08-30-2013, 10:27 AM
Wow, this price is harsh, considering that now you can get a decent mid-range router like C7 for a half of that. I hope it will at least deliver some mind-blowing performance to justify such expense.

jerry6
08-30-2013, 01:09 PM
Seems I never buy a router at the right time , just bought the AC 66U and now they have the ac 68 u . Would the dual core make a big difference , I have no USB disc attached , but do have a server and a NAS attached that are in constant use .

RMerlin
08-30-2013, 02:15 PM
Seems I never buy a router at the right time , just bought the AC 66U and now they have the ac 68 u . Would the dual core make a big difference , I have no USB disc attached , but do have a server and a NAS attached that are in constant use .

LAN performance wouldn't gain anything from the dual core CPU.

For the RT-AC68U launch date, I would still consider this as being a rumour for the time being. Asus hasn't made any official announcement about mass availability yet.

Dr_ARCHer
09-01-2013, 11:36 PM
Not so sure it is just a rumor.

http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/comex-2013-353/asus-comex-2013-a-4360656.html

Item number 5 is the AC68. People are even asking what sort of free gifts will come with it. Those familiar with the computer shows in Singapore (4 per year, held during school holidays) will know that while the prices aren't special (no discounts from the SRP), distributors will throw in freebies.

RMerlin
09-02-2013, 12:27 AM
Not so sure it is just a rumor.

http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/comex-2013-353/asus-comex-2013-a-4360656.html

Item number 5 is the AC68. People are even asking what sort of free gifts will come with it. Those familiar with the computer shows in Singapore (4 per year, held during school holidays) will know that while the prices aren't special (no discounts from the SRP), distributors will throw in freebies.

I'm not sure if they mean they will be demoing it (like they did with the RT-AC56U back in June, and it only hit retail a month later) or they will be actually selling it.

Dr_ARCHer
09-02-2013, 02:28 AM
I'm not sure if they mean they will be demoing it (like they did with the RT-AC56U back in June, and it only hit retail a month later) or they will be actually selling it.

Well, it's only a few more days so we will know. I hope that by publishing the yet unknown SRP later, they are looking to push some units out of the door.

The only downside other than the cost is that we won't be able to run your version of the firmware. Makes me want to reconsider replacing my 2 units of AC66 running your most excellent firmware for two units of AC68 running a beta firmware. :)

RMerlin
09-02-2013, 02:49 AM
The only downside other than the cost is that we won't be able to run your version of the firmware. Makes me want to reconsider replacing my 2 units of AC66 running your most excellent firmware for two units of AC68 running a beta firmware. :)

I plan to eventually support the RT-AC68U, it will all depend on when I can get one to develop on. Thankfully most of the hard work was done while implementing support for the RT-AC56U, so it shouldn't be as painful.

netmik3
09-03-2013, 01:10 AM
Time to donate to merlin people

Dr_ARCHer
09-05-2013, 12:46 PM
Well, the first batch of the AC68 routers just made it to the computer exhibition here in Singapore as it opened at noon today.

Understand that all units have been sold out by the end of the day.

maylyn
09-05-2013, 02:10 PM
Some physical ASUS RT-AC68U pictures

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r254/maylyn22/ASUS%20RT-AC68U/DSC01252.jpg~original (http://s146.photobucket.com/user/maylyn22/media/ASUS%20RT-AC68U/DSC01252.jpg.html)

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r254/maylyn22/ASUS%20RT-AC68U/DSC01253.jpg~original (http://s146.photobucket.com/user/maylyn22/media/ASUS%20RT-AC68U/DSC01253.jpg.html)

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r254/maylyn22/ASUS%20RT-AC68U/DSC01254.jpg~original (http://s146.photobucket.com/user/maylyn22/media/ASUS%20RT-AC68U/DSC01254.jpg.html)

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r254/maylyn22/ASUS%20RT-AC68U/DSC01255.jpg~original (http://s146.photobucket.com/user/maylyn22/media/ASUS%20RT-AC68U/DSC01255.jpg.html)

maylyn
09-05-2013, 02:11 PM
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r254/maylyn22/ASUS%20RT-AC68U/DSC01256.jpg~original (http://s146.photobucket.com/user/maylyn22/media/ASUS%20RT-AC68U/DSC01256.jpg.html)

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r254/maylyn22/ASUS%20RT-AC68U/DSC01257.jpg~original (http://s146.photobucket.com/user/maylyn22/media/ASUS%20RT-AC68U/DSC01257.jpg.html)

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r254/maylyn22/ASUS%20RT-AC68U/DSC01258.jpg~original (http://s146.photobucket.com/user/maylyn22/media/ASUS%20RT-AC68U/DSC01258.jpg.html)

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r254/maylyn22/ASUS%20RT-AC68U/DSC01259.jpg~original (http://s146.photobucket.com/user/maylyn22/media/ASUS%20RT-AC68U/DSC01259.jpg.html)

maylyn
09-05-2013, 02:17 PM
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r254/maylyn22/ASUS%20RT-AC68U/DSC01260.jpg~original (http://s146.photobucket.com/user/maylyn22/media/ASUS%20RT-AC68U/DSC01260.jpg.html)

Default UI.

It's on dual WAN at default settings with fail over on USB port, hardware revision ~ A1 and stock firmware ~ 3.0.0.4.374.107

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r254/maylyn22/ASUS%20RT-AC68U/Stockfirmware.png~original (http://s146.photobucket.com/user/maylyn22/media/ASUS%20RT-AC68U/Stockfirmware.png.html)

RMerlin
09-05-2013, 02:39 PM
Time to donate to merlin people

It's more a matter of availability really. The router hasn't launched yet (it was a limited stock launch at Comex), and my contact at Asus in the US only had one unit for his own lab.

iceblister
09-05-2013, 03:49 PM
Hi Guys, Long time lurker; just registered.

I literally just purchased the AC66U and going to have it delivered today. Now reading about the 68U I am tempted to return it and wait a tad longer. I paid $195 after tax.

Do you guys think I should wait?

thiggins
09-05-2013, 03:52 PM
Hi Guys, Long time lurker; just registered.

I literally just purchased the AC66U and going to have it delivered today. Now reading about the 68U I am tempted to return it and wait a tad longer. I paid $195 after tax.

Do you guys think I should wait?Why would you even bother? Besides bragging rights, how are you going to take advantage of the 600 Mbps link rate in 2.4 GHz?

This and the Linksys EA6900 announced today (http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-news/32206-linksys-announces-ac1900-router) are just marketing ploys to suck money from your wallet.

RMerlin
09-05-2013, 03:56 PM
Hi Guys, Long time lurker; just registered.

I literally just purchased the AC66U and going to have it delivered today. Now reading about the 68U I am tempted to return it and wait a tad longer. I paid $195 after tax.

Do you guys think I should wait?

There is no word as to when it will become widely available, nor what will be its price. I suspect it might cost quite a bit more than the AC66U.

The biggest benefits of the AC68U over the AC66U:

- 600 Mbps support on the 2.4 GHz band if you have a card that supports it
- Faster CPU for better VPN performance, better Download Master performance, or faster WAN speed if you need to enable a feature that disables HW acceleration (not needed unless your Internet connection is faster than 150 Mbps)
- USB 3.0 port, for faster file sharing if you use that feature

So, it really depends on your needs, your budget, and how long you are willing to wait.

There will always be new products that are better than what's available now.

iceblister
09-05-2013, 03:58 PM
Why would you even bother? Besides bragging rights, how are you going to take advantage of the 600 Mbps link rate in 2.4 GHz?

This and the Linksys EA6900 announced today (http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-news/32206-linksys-announces-ac1900-router) are just marketing ploys to suck money from your wallet.

I am more concerned with longevity of technology. I currently have a DIR655 which has by far lived its life; still a good router, but a significant amount of problems are beginning to form. When I purchase something, I tend to hope it will survive for at least 3 years.

So I guess I will reform my query. Do you think this router will be constantly supported for awhile (obviously not the full 3 years) - still be maintained with AC is finally complete; and be able to perform the demands in a SOHO/Media environment (smart TVs, multiple DLNA streams, powerline, multiple computers/servers - etc).

What will I be really gaining by going to the 68u vs the 66u. No matter the amount of searching I do - I still cannot find real comparisons (likely because it just came out in Singapore as a demo).

netmik3
09-06-2013, 01:30 AM
How does 600 mbps 2.4ghz work? That's not ac.

RMerlin
09-06-2013, 03:22 AM
How does 600 mbps 2.4ghz work? That's not ac.

Broadcom proprietary TurboQAM technology. With compatible interfaces, it will allow up to 600 Mbps with 802.11n.

Think of it as something similar to the Afterburner tech from the 802.11g days, where they were pushing it to 108 Mbps.

Tsun
09-06-2013, 10:23 AM
Any news about 11AC performance? Is it faster than RT-AC66U?

netmik3
09-07-2013, 03:56 AM
Man I hate proprietary stuff. Marketing gimmicks. If the chips could reliably do it, it should be in the standard. I use intel nics anyway. Hope they release an AC centrino card.

mikeg
09-07-2013, 11:39 AM
The stores im Sweden have it as a preorder now for just $ 421 , people with money left to spend - now it is the time to spend it so Asus can sell more ....
I am still waiting for the problems in the AC66U to be solved.


It's more a matter of availability really. The router hasn't launched yet (it was a limited stock launch at Comex), and my contact at Asus in the US only had one unit for his own lab.

RMerlin
09-07-2013, 02:51 PM
Man I hate proprietary stuff. Marketing gimmicks. If the chips could reliably do it, it should be in the standard. I use intel nics anyway. Hope they release an AC centrino card.

The problem is this was designed years after the 802.11n standards was finalised. So the only way to extend upon it (short of switching everyone to 802.11ac) is to go the proprietary route. Not saying that makes it any better, but I understand the reasons behind it.

sm00thpapa
09-16-2013, 12:47 AM
Glad to see that N is not dead yet. Can't wait to see how the 600 Mbps performs on 2.4 and 5 GHz bands.

RogerSC
09-16-2013, 04:17 AM
Glad to see that N is not dead yet. Can't wait to see how the 600 Mbps performs on 2.4 and 5 GHz bands.

Yeah, that way they get to sell new clients, as well. More $'s for them.

Asusnet
09-16-2013, 02:13 PM
Hi All,

Just to clarify, to see the 600Mbps on 2.4Ghz, it requires you to own a PCE-AC66 or PCE-AC68. No other adapters (from ASUS) supports TurboQAM currently.

No ETA yet, but you can expect the RT-AC68U within the next few months.

Tsun
09-16-2013, 04:49 PM
What is the point of implementing a 802.11n tweak, which can be used only if both router and client are 802.11ac models? :D

RMerlin
09-16-2013, 07:51 PM
What is the point of implementing a 802.11n tweak, which can be used only if both router and client are 802.11ac models? :D

The increase range on the 2.4 GHz band vs the 5 GHz band might make it desirable when trying to reach a router from accros the house. 802.11ac only works on the shorter ranged 5 GHz band.

reallynotnick
09-16-2013, 10:32 PM
No ETA yet, but you can expect the RT-AC68U within the next few months.

So it could be until November before I see this router? Why was the router announced in June if it wouldn't be out for so long? Is there issues with the router? It just seems weird to me, mind you I have never kept up with the router world but I was hoping to buy the latest and greatest router so I figured I would wait for the 68U but now I'm questioning if that was a poor choice.

RMerlin
09-17-2013, 12:08 AM
If Asus announces a new product the same day it gets mass-released, people who bought the older model two days before will be pissed.

If Asus announces a new product 3 months before it gets mass-released, people waiting for it get annoyed because they want everything right now.

There's just no way to please everyone I guess :(

GoNz0
09-17-2013, 05:15 AM
how true, I am waiting for the 68 to replace my netgear wndr4500...

reallynotnick
09-17-2013, 12:50 PM
If Asus announces a new product the same day it gets mass-released, people who bought the older model two days before will be pissed.

If Asus announces a new product 3 months before it gets mass-released, people waiting for it get annoyed because they want everything right now.

There's just no way to please everyone I guess :(

To be fair it has already been over 3 months and I kind of expected 2-3 months, but if it turns out to be 5 months that is kind of crazy IMO. If they would have just announced an expected ship month so people could make an informed decision I think everyone would be happy.

thiggins
09-17-2013, 01:00 PM
To be fair it has already been over 3 months and I kind of expected 2-3 months, but if it turns out to be 5 months that is kind of crazy IMO. If they would have just announced an expected ship month so people could make an informed decision I think everyone would be happy.It is not uncommon for six months or more to pass between product announcement and first ship. That is often what happens with products introduced in January at CES.

Manufacturers often announce early to have consumers do exactly what you are doing, hold off on purchasing a competitor's product while you wait for theirs.

Tsun
09-17-2013, 01:42 PM
If Asus announces a new product the same day it gets mass-released, people who bought the older model two days before will be pissed.

If Asus announces a new product 3 months before it gets mass-released, people waiting for it get annoyed because they want everything right now.

There's just no way to please everyone I guess :(

Announce a product, with a retail release date. How hard can it be?

thiggins
09-17-2013, 01:59 PM
Announce a product, with a retail release date. How hard can it be?It's not hard. It's a marketing strategy.

Ziggy
09-17-2013, 03:03 PM
ASUS RT-68U Press Release (pdf) (http://www.asusnordic.com/marknad/press/PR_RTAC68U.pdf)

Release date: October

dunkin
09-17-2013, 04:11 PM
around $450?

krum
09-17-2013, 04:33 PM
21500 Indian Rupee = 339.55 US Dollar

http://www.fonearena.com/tech/routers/asus-rt-ac68u-dual-band-802-11ac-router-launched-in-india-for-rs-21500/4831/

Tsun
09-17-2013, 05:49 PM
around $450?

Usually €1 in Europe becomes $1 in the US, so I'd expect something around $300-$350 like in the rest of VAT free world (which is still too much in my opinion, unless it delivers some mindblowing performance ;))

JarleH
09-18-2013, 08:01 AM
Can someone give the details on the differences of the Asus RT-AC68U and the AC56U? Here in Norway the (still not available) AC68U is more then double the price of the AC56U, which is ALOT more.

The AC56U is available here now, the AC68U has unconfirmed release date. I am pretty sure I will be going for the AC56U, but it would be nice to know why there is such a huge price difference between the two models.

JH_man

chunlianghere
09-18-2013, 10:02 AM
Can someone give the details on the differences of the Asus RT-AC68U and the AC56U? Here in Norway the (still not available) AC68U is more then double the price of the AC56U, which is ALOT more.

The AC56U is available here now, the AC68U has unconfirmed release date. I am pretty sure I will be going for the AC56U, but it would be nice to know why there is such a huge price difference between the two models.

JH_man
http://wikidevi.com/wiki/ASUS_RT-AC56U, internal antenna, 2 antenna each for 2.4GHz and 5GHz

http://wikidevi.com/wiki/ASUS_RT-AC68U, external detachable antenna, 3 antenna each for 2.4GHz and 5GHz

thiggins
09-18-2013, 10:07 AM
Can someone give the details on the differences of the Asus RT-AC68U and the AC56U? Here in Norway the (still not available) AC68U is more then double the price of the AC56U, which is ALOT more.Inside Story: ASUS RT-AC56U & RT-AC68U (http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-features/32120-inside-story-asus-rt-ac56u-and-rt-ac68u)

JarleH
09-18-2013, 10:29 AM
Ok, but why the huge (more then double) price difference?! Just external antennas that results in better wifi should not be the reason alone, nor the higher AC rateing.

JH_man

RMerlin
09-18-2013, 10:54 AM
Ok, but why the huge (more then double) price difference?! Just external antennas that results in better wifi should not be the reason alone, nor the higher AC rateing.

JH_man

Different product class, as it offers triple stream support versus only two streams.

Pricing might still vary once it gets released I suppose, products aren't always sold at their suggested resale price.

janosek
09-18-2013, 01:09 PM
the ac68u is now on ncix.com for 220

RMerlin, has Asus sent you a development router?

reallynotnick
09-18-2013, 01:31 PM
the ac68u is now on ncix.com for 220


It only seems to be on ncix.ca so far right now and of course it is "back ordered" hoping that price is accurate as that will mean the price should be basically the same as the 66U.

RMerlin
09-18-2013, 02:40 PM
the ac68u is now on ncix.com for 220

RMerlin, has Asus sent you a development router?

Not yet. No one in North America has really received that router. Asus's initial limited inventory was all sold at Comex. My contact at Asus only had a sample for his own internal testing.

I'm not in a hurry. Most of the hard work was already done when I had an advance sample for the RT-AC56U - I was able to finalize the firmware at about the same time it went officially for sale. With the AC68U I won't need an extra 4-6 weeks of development time, so it would be fine if I only got one close to the official mass availability.

NCIX pulled the same stunt with the RT-AC56U - they listed it over a month before it actually became available in North America. Even the pricing was completely wrong, and was probably just based on speculations.

My personal feeling is that this router will probably end up selling to close to 250$ - so it won't be in direct competition with the 210$ RT-AC66U. Unless all current models drop in price, for the AC68U to take the previous spot of the AC66, but I doubt it.

bigmag
09-18-2013, 03:55 PM
FYI

http://www.asus.com/Networking/RTAC68U/#overview

PrivateJoker
09-18-2013, 04:24 PM
FYI

http://www.asus.com/Networking/RTAC68U/#overview

More router streams = more SPF (smiles per family). ;)

http://i.imgur.com/MddssCg.jpg

Cause that is one seriously happy family.

reallynotnick
09-19-2013, 12:52 AM
This review is looking pretty favorable with it setting all kinds of new speed records.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/asus-rt-ac68u-802-11ac-router_Peripheral_review

PrivateJoker
09-19-2013, 01:34 AM
This review is looking pretty favorable with it setting all kinds of new speed records.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/asus-rt-ac68u-802-11ac-router_Peripheral_review

Allow me to play devil's advocate. . ."Setting new speed records" when paired with another 802.11ac device that also has the Broadcom TurboQAM chip. Of which there are 3 or so total wifi devices meeting that spec, all made by Asus? (Not to obsessively critique that review, but WD Reds are a consumer/SOHO NAS drive [I use them and like them] but if you're in a situation where your NAS is the weak speed link, I'd start by stepping those up to WD Re blacks, or SSDs, and not alluding to the fact that the WD Reds might have special super high performance NAS mojo running through them).

Call me a skeptic but this smells a lot like Super-G 802.11g back in 2004/05, and I have exactly one old AP that supports it, but no compatible devices.

I did a bit of googling and Broadcom has had a chip made for mobile use (phones, notebooks, tablets) utilizing TurboQAM aka "5G Wifi" that was announced in 2012 (http://www.broadcom.com/press/release.php?id=s694864), and promised in Q1 2013, it looks like 2 Samsung Galaxy phones have this available right now. Here are a few notes (http://wifinigel.blogspot.com/2013/05/samsung-s4-wifi-capabilities.html) on one guy's findings on its BCM 4335 chip (on a side note, googling "Samsung Galaxy 4 wifi" (https://www.google.com/search?q=samsung+galaxy+s4+wifi&oq=samsung+galaxy+s4+wifi&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i61j69i59j0j69i60.4301j0&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8) did not lead me to find glowing reviews of stable wifi by happy customers ;) ).

I'm sure the AC68 great, I might even get one eventually, but I wouldn't bank on it actually transferring things at gigabit+ wifi speeds. . .

I think there is a really good reason that there so much of consumer routers is PR and marketing magic, it's because consumers will buy on higher numbers and more superlatives thrown in to the description.

In my home wifi is a nice way to control other things (music, TVs, home automation) and read emails, but anything that is important or needs to be fast is hardwired. It's just a million times easier. . .and if I wasn't going to move shortly, I would have ran cable up to my 2nd floor where my two bridges currently reside.

I love Asus's router hardware, and the other day I wrote a post defending Broadcom, I'm not trying to come down on either of those fine companies, nor any wifi manufacturer. Was I excited when dual band 802.11n came to the iOS devices? You bet I was. Do I connect any of my dual band iOS devices to 5ghz in my home? Nope, the range just isn't there in my particular RF environment on that band. Just saying, overall - I think if we keep eating it up this fast that our yearly upgrade habits on cell phones will soon spread to all other areas of CE purchasing. ;)

Maybe that's why I like this site, because I've seen Tim ask people in the forums that are soliciting router advice, "do you really need 802.11ac (http://forums.smallnetbuilder.com/showthread.php?p=82593#post82593), if so, for what?." That and articles like "Who says 802.11ac routers need gigabit ports (http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-features/32198-who-says-an-ac-router-needs-gigabit-ports)" are very interesting and helpful, not because they are "contrarian" (which I don't think they are), it's just good, practical thinking in an enviornment where we're more or less getting choked out by a ceaselessly escalating marketing driven machine. I can't be the only one that thought it was a little funny that Broadcom is trying to get us to refer to wifi now in generations (eg "5G wifi"), to make it easier to know which one we should be buying.

JarleH
09-19-2013, 03:40 AM
Different product class, as it offers triple stream support versus only two streams.

Pricing might still vary once it gets released I suppose, products aren't always sold at their suggested resale price.

And since I am pretty noob when it comes to wifi tech, I need to ask;
What is a 'stream' in this sense?

JH_man

PrivateJoker
09-19-2013, 03:49 AM
And since I am pretty noob when it comes to wifi tech, I need to ask;
What is a 'stream' in this sense?

JH_man

No problem. . .wifi uses frequencies that they label with channels, just like TV channels do. In 802.11g the 2.4ghz spectrum was divided (in the US) into 11 distinct channels to choose from. Your access point and devices need to be on the same channel, and you don't want to use a neighbor's channel (ideally) because the interference can slow things down a bit. In 802.11n, the newer standard, they can actually not just give you one channel to work with, but several (they measure the size of the channel in mhz, old single stream style chunks are 20mhz wide, newer multi stream chunks can be 40mhz wide, so taking up twice the room). That enables 802.11n devices to get faster rates because they use multiple channels/and multiple streams concurrently (at the same time). It's kind of like having adding another lane on a highway, it's so more cars can get through.

If you have a router/access point that is 3 stream, it only does you any good if your device can also support that. 802.11ac can do 80mhz wide channels to get very high speed under certain conditions.

If it's not too heavy a read, check out the wikipedia articles on 802.11n & 802.11ac, maybe worth a brief skimming anyway.

Hope this helps!

JarleH
09-19-2013, 07:04 AM
Ok, so as I understand it the short version is; the more streams the faster, streams has nothing to do with number of stable connections at a time.

For me I can not see that the AC68U is worth it as long as it is just wifi-speed/range that is the difference, the AC56U is under half the price of the AC68U (1100 vs 2500 NOK).

JH_man

reallynotnick
09-19-2013, 09:10 AM
Allow me to play devil's advocate. . ."Setting new speed records" when paired with another 802.11ac device that also has the Broadcom TurboQAM chip. Of which there are 3 or so total wifi devices meeting that spec, all made by Asus?

Call me a skeptic but this smells a lot like Super-G 802.11g back in 2004/05, and I have exactly one old AP that supports it, but no compatible devices. .

They did test a regular N device and it saw a speed improvement.

Not wanting to leave out the multitude on devices sans-TurboQAM we also ran these speeds through a desktop replacement Sony F Series laptop. Happily is did benefit and speeds at all three distances remained faster than anything we'd seen before.

RMerlin
09-19-2013, 10:58 AM
This review is looking pretty favorable with it setting all kinds of new speed records.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/asus-rt-ac68u-802-11ac-router_Peripheral_review

His USB performance is way off. I get 2-3x his performance on the USB 3.0 port. I was able to push read speed over 40 MB/s here. Makes me suspect he might have enabled the option to reduce USB3 interference, unless whichever firmware he was running was sub-optimal (I see it's a 372.xxx build).

thiggins
09-19-2013, 11:08 AM
Can you point me to where Trusted Reviews describes their test methodology?

AC1900 is the latest craze manfs have latched onto to try to keep you shelling out for $200 draft 11ac routers.

There is nothing in TurboQAM that helps improve performance for devices that don't support it. So any performance gains the reviewer saw were likely due to better basic RF performance.

BTW, achieving the 600 Mbps in 2.4 GHz requires a 40MHz wide channel. Since the 802.11 spec now requires 40MHz mode coexistence, even fewer people are going to experience 600 Mbps link rates.

maylyn
09-19-2013, 11:28 AM
His USB performance is way off. I get 2-3x his performance on the USB 3.0 port. I was able to push read speed over 40 MB/s here. Makes me suspect he might have enabled the option to reduce USB3 interference, unless whichever firmware he was running was sub-optimal (I see it's a 372.xxx build).

Hi RMerlin,

Since you have mentioned it, i find it peculiar odd that how did the reviewer get his ASUS RT-AC68U? ;) besides the USB 3.0 performance, there are no pictures of the physical unit posted and i don't recall having heard that ASUS TW has shipped out any .372 firmware for ASUS RT-AC68U. Currently all retailing ASUS RT-AC68U are A1 hardware revision and shipping firmware 3.0.0.4.374_107 or higher and ASUS TW has just released 3.0.0.4.374_134 for some fixes for limited release.

3.0.0.4.374_107

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r254/maylyn22/ASUS%20RT-AC68U/Stockfirmware.png~original (http://s146.photobucket.com/user/maylyn22/media/ASUS%20RT-AC68U/Stockfirmware.png.html)

3.0.0.4.374_134

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r254/maylyn22/ASUS%20RT-AC68U/SingTelSpeedtest-HWAccelerator-1.png~original (http://s146.photobucket.com/user/maylyn22/media/ASUS%20RT-AC68U/SingTelSpeedtest-HWAccelerator-1.png.html)

reallynotnick
09-19-2013, 11:30 AM
His USB performance is way off. I get 2-3x his performance on the USB 3.0 port. I was able to push read speed over 40 MB/s here. Makes me suspect he might have enabled the option to reduce USB3 interference, unless whichever firmware he was running was sub-optimal (I see it's a 372.xxx build).

Did you get a 68U or is this on the 56U? I thought it was kind of odd that they got such terrible speeds on USB 3.0, it would be really nice to get 40MB/s

Also I realize this isn't the best review out there, but figured I would share it since it is the first review I have seen for the 68U.

maylyn
09-19-2013, 11:40 AM
Did you get a 68U or is this on the 56U? I thought it was kind of odd that they got such terrible speeds on USB 3.0, it would be really nice to get 40MB/s

Also I realize this isn't the best review out there, but figured I would share it since it is the first review I have seen for the 68U.

RMerlin got his results on the ASUS RT-AC56U, USB results will vary tho with setup, mine is 20+ ~ 25+MB/s on my ASUS RT-AC56U

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r254/maylyn22/ASUS%20RT-AC56U/Sambatransfer-USB30-2.png~original (http://s146.photobucket.com/user/maylyn22/media/ASUS%20RT-AC56U/Sambatransfer-USB30-2.png.html)

PrivateJoker
09-19-2013, 12:18 PM
They did test a regular N device and it saw a speed improvement.

I saw they mentioned that in passing, but didn't actually give any #s?

I look forward to its wide release and the results from consumers in actual real life setups.

I'm also curious how much more expensive prosumer routers can get and people care about that device's ability to function as a NAS when they'd get better performance out of an entry level NAS.

PrivateJoker
09-19-2013, 12:20 PM
Can you point me to where Trusted Reviews describes their test methodology?

It's in the name, trust them! ;)

RMerlin
09-19-2013, 02:08 PM
Did you get a 68U or is this on the 56U? I thought it was kind of odd that they got such terrible speeds on USB 3.0, it would be really nice to get 40MB/s

Also I realize this isn't the best review out there, but figured I would share it since it is the first review I have seen for the 68U.

That was on a AC56U, which is pretty similar HW-wise.

RMerlin
09-19-2013, 02:09 PM
RMerlin got his results on the ASUS RT-AC56U, USB results will vary tho with setup, mine is 20+ ~ 25+MB/s on my ASUS RT-AC56U

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r254/maylyn22/ASUS%20RT-AC56U/Sambatransfer-USB30-2.png~original (http://s146.photobucket.com/user/maylyn22/media/ASUS%20RT-AC56U/Sambatransfer-USB30-2.png.html)

My numbers were for read speed. Write speed is indeed closer to 25-30 MB/s (I haven't retested it with recent FW code).

All tests are also done with my FW, tho I didn't make many optimizations related to USB/Samba performance.

RMerlin
09-19-2013, 02:13 PM
Hi RMerlin,

Since you have mentioned it, i find it peculiar odd that how did the reviewer get his ASUS RT-AC68U? ;) besides the USB 3.0 performance, there are no pictures of the physical unit posted and i don't recall having heard that ASUS TW has shipped out any .372 firmware for ASUS RT-AC68U. Currently all retailing ASUS RT-AC68U are A1 hardware revision and shipping firmware 3.0.0.4.374_107 or higher and ASUS TW has just released 3.0.0.4.374_134 for some fixes for limited release.


Sounds like they had their hands on a prototype, or someone inside Asus smuggled them a review unit. FW 372 would indeed put them back to a router "shipped" a month or two ago.

They also mention the CPU being a BCM4709. I couldn't find any information confirming if it was indeed a 4709, or a 4708 (the FW code only refers to the latter).

Very little info on Broadcom's own website as to what are the differences between the 4707,08 and 09.

PrivateJoker
09-19-2013, 04:35 PM
My numbers were for read speed. Write speed is indeed closer to 25-30 MB/s (I haven't retested it with recent FW code).

All tests are also done with my FW, tho I didn't make many optimizations related to USB/Samba performance.

At these kind of high performance levels, don't we almost need charts with USB 2.0/3.0 to SATA interface adapter rankings? All I ever see advertised is the max theoretical speed of the spec, I have no idea if (or maybe more accurately "how" not "if") my hard drive controller or the chipset in whatever adapter/interface I use to connect a SATA drive to USB is affecting the throughput of the drive.

As someone who works on drives a lot, I have a lot of standalone, toaster style caddies, I would speculate they might be slower than OEM made external drives in case with interface bundled in. Who knows. . .like I've said, this isn't something I personally would use my router for since I've got a NAS, but it seems to be a feature that people want and that router manufacturers are eager to tout (file serving abilities and USB 3.0 connectivity). There's no plain vanilla test it seems where router file serving performance can be measured independently of drive & chipset used to bring that drive to the USB interface? But one guy's 25MB/s (which is already file system, file size, direction of transfer, and networking protocol dependent) could be another guy's 40MB/s if they have wildly different storage devices.

krum
09-20-2013, 12:49 AM
You can pre-order it on newegg $219.99

Release date 10-9-2013

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833320174&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleKWLess&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleKWLess-_-Network%20-%20Wireless%20Routers-_-ASUS-_-33320174&gclid=CP_00L2I2bkCFZA-MgodoUQA1A&gclid=CP_00L2I2bkCFZA-MgodoUQA1A

Tsun
09-20-2013, 09:06 AM
Wow, this is nowhere near as expensive as I expected. Definitely getting one!

PrivateJoker
09-20-2013, 11:41 AM
I wonder what the release plans are for other devices w/ TurboQAM support. It appears that is the only item w/ TurboQAM available for order/pre-order right now at Newegg.

Igb
09-20-2013, 12:04 PM
It can't be much more expensive given the actual price of RT-AC66U, in fact the only major changes are the processor, usb3.0 ports, and TurboQAM in the 2.4ghz side, a huge increment in prince with similar AC performance will lead to a not very competitive product.

I'm still wondering if I should give it a try (as soon as it is available in Spain) as a replacement for AC66U, but i just find hard to justify the investment only for OpenVPN performance and better usb speeds.

jyeah
09-20-2013, 03:17 PM
http://www.asus.com/us/Networking/RTAC68U

Here's the official webpage for AC68U from ASUS.

RogerSC
09-20-2013, 04:48 PM
I wonder what the release plans are for other devices w/ TurboQAM support. It appears that is the only item w/ TurboQAM available for order/pre-order right now at Newegg.

As has been noted, the "TurboQAM" support requires 40MHz. (2 channels) on 2.4GHz. No point to it for me, other than the prestige of being able to say that I'm a proud new TurboQAM owner *smile*.

Although I'm sure that the other 17 2.4GHz. wireless networks that I see around my neighborhood would all be envious *smile*.

pulp
09-20-2013, 10:10 PM
You can pre-order it on newegg $219.99

Release date 10-9-2013

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833320174&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleKWLess&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleKWLess-_-Network%20-%20Wireless%20Routers-_-ASUS-_-33320174&gclid=CP_00L2I2bkCFZA-MgodoUQA1A&gclid=CP_00L2I2bkCFZA-MgodoUQA1A

And if you need it straight from the horse(power)'s mouth.... here it is from ASUS:

krum
09-21-2013, 01:33 AM
And if you need it straight from the horse(power)'s mouth.... here it is from ASUS:

Yup this was posted in the main thread as well as this one, some people don't read threads
http://forums.smallnetbuilder.com/showpost.php?p=82801&postcount=111

:cool:

reallynotnick
09-27-2013, 12:46 AM
Amazon has it up for pre-order for $213.95 so I cancelled my Newegg order (which I oddly couldn't apply my Shop Runner to).

http://www.amazon.com/RT-AC68U-Wireless-AC1900-Dual-Band-Gigabit-Router/dp/B00FB45SI4/


Also CNET has their review up, which I realize still doesn't have a great standardized testing methodology but figured I would share it.

http://reviews.cnet.com/routers/asus-rt-ac68u-dual/4505-3319_7-35828165.html

sm00thpapa
09-27-2013, 11:19 PM
Linksys EA6900 launches on the same day as the RT-AC68U. Wonder which one will sell more on launch day. Tough decision as both routers seem to be very equal in power. I'm looking at both myself. Will wait for reviews before I purchase either.

RMerlin
09-28-2013, 01:40 AM
Linksys EA6900 launches on the same day as the RT-AC68U. Wonder which one will sell more on launch day. Tough decision as both routers seem to be very equal in power. I'm looking at both myself. Will wait for reviews before I purchase either.

I intend to only support the RT-AC68U. That should make your decision quite easier to make ;)

JGrana
09-28-2013, 07:25 AM
I intend to only support the RT-AC68U. That should make your decision quite easier to make ;)

Enough said. I have ordered an AC68u from Amazon just now :-)

sm00thpapa
09-29-2013, 05:09 AM
I intend to only support the RT-AC68U. That should make your decision quite easier to make ;)

Merlin your firmware is awesome. But I will wait till a few people get it at launch to see what the bugs are with it. Will also wait till it drops well below $200.00.

mikeg
09-29-2013, 08:04 AM
I will also wait for early users to see how this unit will work and how the Linksys EA6900 to see which is best in real life. I also wonder if the Linksys USB-Wifi WUSB6300 will perfom on the AC-routers. I just wonder if the price tag will get well below $200 in a near time frame.....

Merlin your firmware is awesome. But I will wait till a few people get it at launch to see what the bugs are with it. Will also wait till it drops well below $200.00.

RMerlin
09-29-2013, 02:52 PM
Merlin your firmware is awesome. But I will wait till a few people get it at launch to see what the bugs are with it. Will also wait till it drops well below $200.00.

I doubt the price would drop any time soon. If you look at the RT-AC66U, the price hasn't changed at all since it was launched about a year ago. So, chances are you'd have to wait for new models being released to see it drop below 200$.

Poseidon
09-29-2013, 09:01 PM
I can't wait to see how this compares to the Linksys EA6900 (already shipping).

I love the Asus hardware but their factory firmwares are inconsistent and their support is terrible.

Also now that Belkin purchased Linksys, I wonder how much better their routers will be (terrible under Cisco).

I really hope we can get reviews on BOTH of these routers soon.

sm00thpapa
09-30-2013, 03:34 AM
I'm waiting for reviews on both the 68U and EA6900. EA6900 has the same hardware as the 68U it seems. Both have broadcom's Turbo-QAM.

Poseidon
09-30-2013, 01:09 PM
I'm waiting for reviews on both the 68U and EA6900. EA6900 has the same hardware as the 68U it seems. Both have broadcom's Turbo-QAM.

I went ahead and ordered the Linksys EA6900 based on BOTH units having the same hardware - but also I much prefer the look of the Linksys router to that of the new vertically-standing design of the Asus. Looks too bulky IMO.

RTN
09-30-2013, 03:34 PM
I intend to only support the RT-AC68U.
That should make your decision quite easier to make ;)
Asus support: http://www.asus.com/Networking/RTAC68U/#overview :D

ASUS_AC68U_FW_3.0.0.4.374.205: :)
http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=11&s=2&m=RT-AC68U&os=36

Source GPL: http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/wireless/RT-AC68U/GPL_RT_AC68U_30004374205.zip ;)

Shikami
09-30-2013, 03:46 PM
RMerlin, are these routers based on 3.x kernel or latter 2.6.x?

RMerlin
09-30-2013, 04:08 PM
RMerlin, are these routers based on 3.x kernel or latter 2.6.x?

2.6.36.4, which is newer than what is used by the Broadcom MIPS routers such as the RT-N66U and RT-AC66U.

One of the differences is that you get ext4 support with it.

RMerlin
09-30-2013, 04:14 PM
Asus support: http://www.asus.com/Networking/RTAC68U/#overview :D

ASUS_AC68U_FW_3.0.0.4.374.205: :)
http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=11&s=2&m=RT-AC68U&os=36

Source GPL: http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/wireless/RT-AC68U/GPL_RT_AC68U_30004374205.zip ;)

Probably not fully replicated to mirrors yet, I only see the FW - the GPL returns a 404.

kamaran
09-30-2013, 06:19 PM
Any idea when we can expect a review for this router Tim?

RTN
09-30-2013, 07:16 PM
Probably not fully replicated to mirrors yet, I only see the FW - the GPL returns a 404.
ASUS RT-AC68U Firmware version 3.0.0.4.374.205

The first version of fireware for RT-AC68U

http://dlsvr01.asus.com/pub/ASUS/wireless/RT-AC68U/FW_RT_AC68U_3004374205.zip
http://dlsvr04.asus.com/pub/ASUS/wireless/RT-AC68U/FW_RT_AC68U_3004374205.zip

File Size 26,14 (MBytes) 2013.09.30 update

GPL of ASUS RT-AC68U for firmware 3.0.0.4.374.205

http://dlsvr01.asus.com/pub/ASUS/wireless/RT-AC68U/GPL_RT_AC68U_30004374205.zip
http://dlsvr04.asus.com/pub/ASUS/wireless/RT-AC68U/GPL_RT_AC68U_30004374205.zip

File Size 740,46 (MBytes) 2013.09.30 update
http://support.asus.com/Download.aspx?SLanguage=en&p=11&s=2&m=RT-AC68U&os=8 ;)

sm00thpapa
09-30-2013, 09:31 PM
I went ahead and ordered the Linksys EA6900 based on BOTH units having the same hardware - but also I much prefer the look of the Linksys router to that of the new vertically-standing design of the Asus. Looks too bulky IMO.

Yes I also like the design. This is the first Linksys branded router made by Belkin. Hope it's a good one. Kind of like both so waiting for the reviews. Should be out shortly as both sites have firmware available for their routers.

goldswimmerbj
10-01-2013, 10:34 AM
any point in upgrading to this from an AC-66R?

laser
10-01-2013, 05:09 PM
I personally will never purchase anything with the linksys name after my experience with the EA4200. Their support sux!
I am sticking with ASUS and Merlin, its a sure bet they will keep updaing/fixing the AC68 long after Linksys moves on from the EA6900

Steve

babgvant
10-01-2013, 05:31 PM
any point in upgrading to this from an AC-66R?

Not if you're happy with it. There shouldn't be huge improvements in wireless performance. It should have more headroom for apps and NAS type use cases though. L

jyeah
10-01-2013, 05:37 PM
Not if you're happy with it. There shouldn't be huge improvements in wireless performance. It should have more headroom for apps and NAS type use cases though. L

Even though this for a R7000 (safe to assume performance is more or less the same as the AC68U), but if you look at http://www.pcworld.com/article/2050761/netgear-nighthawk-review-this-802-11ac-router-sets-lan-speed-records.html it does show a major improvement in NAS type uses. That would be the main compelling reason for me to upgrade from a AC66.

Other than that, I wouldn't have a good reason to upgrade.

whsbuss
10-01-2013, 05:46 PM
Even though this for a R7000 (safe to assume performance is more or less the same as the AC68U), but if you look at http://www.pcworld.com/article/2050761/netgear-nighthawk-review-this-802-11ac-router-sets-lan-speed-records.html it does show a major improvement in NAS type uses. That would be the main compelling reason for me to upgrade from a AC66.

Other than that, I wouldn't have a good reason to upgrade.

Well I have an R6300v1 that is absolutely horrible!! Worked great for almost a year now it drops lan connectivity constantly. I had the AC66R and returned it last week in anticipation of the AC68U. Never a Netgear again.

jyeah
10-01-2013, 06:06 PM
Well I have an R6300v1 that is absolutely horrible!! Worked great for almost a year now it drops lan connectivity constantly. I had the AC66R and returned it last week in anticipation of the AC68U. Never a Netgear again.

I was just using a R7000 as an example as to why to upgrade to an AC68U. :P I also returned my AC66 and ordered a AC68, since I was planning to setup an NAS. :)

F5ing
10-04-2013, 06:17 AM
I personally will never purchase anything with the linksys name after my experience with the EA4200. Their support sux!
I am sticking with ASUS and Merlin, its a sure bet they will keep updaing/fixing the AC68 long after Linksys moves on from the EA6900

Steve

I don't think Belkin can do any worse than Cisco's support for the Linksys brand. Gave up on the Linksys brand under Cisco a couple of years ago after being "on the fence" with them for a year or so before that. I'll never say "never" though :).

Asus/Merlin provide regular updates to improve; not so with Linksys/Cisco unless the hardware or admin GUI was basically "unusable".

maylyn
10-04-2013, 10:23 AM
Probably not fully replicated to mirrors yet, I only see the FW - the GPL returns a 404.

Hi RMerlin,

You should be able to download it now :P i have tried and have downloaded it :)

I think smallnetbuilder has received their ASUS RT-AC68U unit as well ;)

DaveMishSr
10-04-2013, 03:57 PM
Hi RMerlin,

You should be able to download it now :P i have tried and have downloaded it :)

I think smallnetbuilder has received their ASUS RT-AC68U unit as well ;)
I just got my RT-AC68U! I am setting it up later today. Once I verify it is up and running OK I will be auctioning off my 2 RT-AC66U's on eBay. I like the new vertical design as my AC66U's are both set up vertically to promote better cooling. The AC68U also has a LED on/off switch and a radio on/off button as well in addition to a power button. I am very impressed with its design. Let's just hope it performs as well as it looks.

Asmodian
10-04-2013, 04:10 PM
I got my RT-AC68U yesterday, it is running very well and I do get a better 5 Ghz connection on my GS4 vs my "old" RT-AC66U. I too like the new design and the device feel very high quality.

Now we just need a Merlin firmware so I can setup OpenVPN again. :)

thiggins
10-04-2013, 05:07 PM
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/rankers/router/ranking/AC1900?rank=6

ASUS has a big problem (http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/lanwan/router-charts/graph/118-2_4-ghz-profile-up/1234-netgear-r7000-nighthawk/1235-asus-rtac68u) in 2.4 GHz uplink.

Couldn't get the PCE-AC68 to link at 600 Mbps with it or the NETGEAR R7000 either.

Andy24
10-04-2013, 06:38 PM
Dang, that stinks, I've been waiting for this thing for months to get replace the freakin' slow as snails Linksys 6500.

sm00thpapa
10-04-2013, 07:02 PM
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/rankers/router/ranking/AC1900?rank=6

ASUS has a big problem (http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/lanwan/router-charts/graph/118-2_4-ghz-profile-up/1234-netgear-r7000-nighthawk/1235-asus-rtac68u) in 2.4 GHz uplink.

Couldn't get the PCE-AC68 to link at 600 Mbps with it or the NETGEAR R7000 either.

Thanks Tim. Guess I won't be in a hurry to pick up the AC68U.

Tsun
10-04-2013, 07:23 PM
802.11ac performances are very disappointing compared to AC1750 routers - I expected much bigger gain from the new generation.

EA6900 numbers coming any time soon?

NightOwl326
10-04-2013, 07:44 PM
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/rankers/router/ranking/AC1900?rank=6

ASUS has a big problem (http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/lanwan/router-charts/graph/118-2_4-ghz-profile-up/1234-netgear-r7000-nighthawk/1235-asus-rtac68u) in 2.4 GHz uplink.

Couldn't get the PCE-AC68 to link at 600 Mbps with it or the NETGEAR R7000 either.

So if I was going to make a purchase this weekend of this generation router, what would be your advice at this point? And does the r7000 really have a cooling fan?

whsbuss
10-04-2013, 08:13 PM
So if I was going to make a purchase this weekend of this generation router, what would be your advice at this point? And does the r7000 really have a cooling fan?

I can only give my opinion. My R6300 is less than 1 year old and all the LAN ports drop packets constantly. Their latest f/w has a problem with very long ping times and they haven't addressed it. Their support is terrible and they have a tendency to stop support too soon on their routers.

I'd stay away. Even with this issue Tim has found I would go with the 68u.

sm00thpapa
10-04-2013, 08:55 PM
So if I was going to make a purchase this weekend of this generation router, what would be your advice at this point? And does the r7000 really have a cooling fan?

I would wait on a purchase till all the AC1900 have been reviewed. Seems like they all have bugs that need to be worked out.

RMerlin
10-04-2013, 09:42 PM
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/rankers/router/ranking/AC1900?rank=6

ASUS has a big problem (http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/lanwan/router-charts/graph/118-2_4-ghz-profile-up/1234-netgear-r7000-nighthawk/1235-asus-rtac68u) in 2.4 GHz uplink.

Couldn't get the PCE-AC68 to link at 600 Mbps with it or the NETGEAR R7000 either.

Looking at that graph, maybe Asus ought to sue Netgear for outputting more power than what is allowed ;)

More seriously tho, which firmware version did you use in your tests? Asus released an update on their website last week, that might be newer than what was shipped with your router perhaps. Might also be good to Email AK about this, just in case he might have a beta FW for you to try out.

RMerlin
10-04-2013, 10:48 PM
For those better than I at reading these wireless charts, how you sumerize what you see on both bands between the 2 and in general?

According to this graph, 2.4 GHz performance on the RT-AC68U is about a third of what the R7000 (or any other 450 Mbits router should get on the 2.4 GHz band) gets. Which is definitely wrong.

RMerlin
10-04-2013, 11:05 PM
Is that only on uplink? How does 5ghz, range on both bands and 2.4 downlink compare?

Just look at the graphs that Tim linked, they should be fairly easy to read.

PrivateJoker
10-04-2013, 11:30 PM
According to this graph, 2.4 GHz performance on the RT-AC68U is about a third of what the R7000 (or any other 450 Mbits router should get on the 2.4 GHz band) gets. Which is definitely wrong.

Or, they could put a positive spin on it and say "it's the 2nd fastest 2.4ghz uplink of any AC1900 router." ;)

http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/lanwan/router-charts/view (then pull down "2.4ghz uplink" for sort on list.

NightOwl326
10-04-2013, 11:46 PM
Looking at these charts I don't see much that the rt-ac68u excels at. Don't see much to make this a $220.00 wireless router upgrade.

RMerlin
10-04-2013, 11:59 PM
Looking at these charts I don't see much that the rt-ac68u excels at. Don't see much to make this a $220.00 wireless router upgrade.

Depends what you are upgrading from. Upgrading from an RT-AC66U just for the faster CPU and USB performance would make no sense - buy an entry level NAS instead, and plug it to your RT-AC66U. Upgrading from an RT-N16 however would be a worthwhile upgrade. Upgrading from an WRT54GL would be a big improvement.

Anyway, when you get into the 200$ price range for a router, this is clearly targeted at enthusiasts. The same type of customer who pays 500$ for a CPU that is only 5% faster than the 250$ one - they want the top of the line, and they can afford it.

For most users looking at better wifi speed, personally I recommend the RT-AC56U. Very few users have triple-stream capable NICs anyway, so the dual stream RT-AC56U would get them in business. They would get the same WAN or USB performance as with the RT-AC68U as well.

If range/coverage is an issue, the RT-AC66U remains a top contender.

RMerlin
10-05-2013, 12:05 AM
Those who got one, did Asus implement the Turbo mode that previously mentioned?

Sky1111
10-05-2013, 04:36 AM
While it is too early to judge, I do suspect that Netgear R7000 will win this race.

People are not restricted to Netgear FW anymore - OpenRouter site already has DD-WRT firmware which supports things like VPN Client: http://www.myopenrouter.com/download/51635/DD-WRT-Firmware-for-NETGEAR-R7000-Wi-Fi-Router/

While both more expensive Linksys 6900 and AC68U are running the CPU at 800MHz, Netgear is officially running 1GHz. 20% CPU clock does make difference - esp for people who are not planning to overclock it.

Netgear is cheaper from the fist wave of AC1900 routers - at least in US:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=AC1900&N=-1&isNodeId=1

What remains open is memory they used in the routers... In my observation, boosting the RAM from default 533MHz to 800MHz made a huge impact on wired network transfer rates...

Can't wait for full reviews and a detailed hardware comparison between these 3...

kamaran
10-05-2013, 05:04 AM
The Cnet review found the rt-AC68u to outperform the r7000

http://m.cnet.com/reviews/netgear-nighthawk-ac1900-smart-wi-fi-router-r7000/35828277

sm00thpapa
10-05-2013, 06:19 AM
The Cnet review found the rt-AC68u to outperform the r7000

http://m.cnet.com/reviews/netgear-nighthawk-ac1900-smart-wi-fi-router-r7000/35828277

IMO Cnet is a joke with their reviews. That Dong Ngo guy knows nothing about routers and can't even speak English.

whsbuss
10-05-2013, 08:37 AM
The Cnet review found the rt-AC68u to outperform the r7000

http://m.cnet.com/reviews/netgear-nighthawk-ac1900-smart-wi-fi-router-r7000/35828277

What I find interesting is Cnet shows better 2.4ghz performance than the R7000. Tim's initial testing shows the opposite. Also, Cnet states the R7000 supports Time Machine on their USB ports...... but in fact the manual says just the opposite:

"HFS+ Journal is read-only because this router does not support Time Machine. For more information about Time Machine, visit www.netgear.com/readyshare or see your Mac’s documentation."

thiggins
10-05-2013, 09:37 AM
Dang, that stinks, I've been waiting for this thing for months to get replace the freakin' slow as snails Linksys 6500.
You guys should know better than to jump right on a new ASUS router. They don't like sending them to me for review until they get a couple of firmware spins done.

But I have told them that if routers are good enough to sell, they are good enough to review.

thiggins
10-05-2013, 09:40 AM
IMO Cnet is a joke with their reviews. That Dong Ngo guy knows nothing about routers and can't even speak English.
Actually Dong is pretty well respected and one of the better reviewers out there. It would be better, however, if he posted details on his test procedure.

I may have missed it, but I didn't even see what clients he used for the test and whether the throughputs posted are uplink or downlink.

thiggins
10-05-2013, 09:52 AM
Looking at that graph, maybe Asus ought to sue Netgear for outputting more power than what is allowed ;)

More seriously tho, which firmware version did you use in your tests? Asus released an update on their website last week, that might be newer than what was shipped with your router perhaps. Might also be good to Email AK about this, just in case he might have a beta FW for you to try out.I used that latest posted version and confirmed it with ASUS.

I review only with publicly released firmware.

whsbuss
10-05-2013, 12:15 PM
Tim,

Have you reported the 2.4ghz issue to Asus? I know you haven't finished the in-depth review but if there is that much of a degradation of throughput that is a serious issue.

thiggins
10-05-2013, 01:35 PM
I am under no obligation to do so and usually do not share test results before reviews are posted.

But since results have been publicly posted, I have sent copies of data for all four test runs (not just the single best run posted) to ASUS and NETGEAR. Each company got only the results for their product.

dawson46
10-05-2013, 01:45 PM
I have an RT-AC66U as an access point and the RT-AC68U. The 2.4 from the 68 is much stronger performance wise and distance than the 66. But on 5GHz, I'm seeing the opposite. Signal degrades faster the same distance away on the 68. The settings for wifi are the same on both devices (except SSID and Channel)

whsbuss
10-05-2013, 01:54 PM
I have an RT-AC66U as an access point and the RT-AC68U. The 2.4 from the 68 is much stronger performance wise and distance than the 66. But on 5GHz, I'm seeing the opposite. Signal degrades faster the same distance away on the 68. The settings for wifi are the same on both devices (except SSID and Channel)

WOW that's interesting. I use 5ghz for my macbook and apple TV. 2.4ghz for all other devices.

whsbuss
10-05-2013, 01:57 PM
I am under no obligation to do so and usually do not share test results before reviews are posted.

But since results have been publicly posted, I have sent copies of data for all four test runs (not just the single best run posted) to ASUS and NETGEAR. Each company got only the results for their product.

Thanks. Still hoping the Asus performs well as my Netgear router experience has been terrible.

dawson46
10-05-2013, 02:08 PM
I had issues with the Netgear in that once I got Directv's Nomad, the Mac computers would sometimes find their time machine backups on a WD Worldbook and 2 MyBookLives. Not sure why Nomad made such a traffic increase but the AC68 handles it without a drop.

My only complaint is to find away around the double NAT DDNS issue. There was a storm that fried most of the cable modems in our plan. Comcast gave everyone the Comcast Wireless gateways. Not sure if there is a way around that.

PrivateJoker
10-05-2013, 02:13 PM
I have an RT-AC66U as an access point and the RT-AC68U. The 2.4 from the 68 is much stronger performance wise and distance than the 66. But on 5GHz, I'm seeing the opposite. Signal degrades faster the same distance away on the 68. The settings for wifi are the same on both devices (except SSID and Channel)

To test apples to apples are you comparing placing them in the same point of reference (one at a time) and using the same channel settings at that physical place? Even moving one just 50-100ft away you have uncontrolled RF (or even the RF that you are producing) and non-identical signal pathways. The wifi bands have some seriously different transmission & reflection properties through different building materials, even rotating your AP 90 in place can yield different RSSI & throughput.

I'm not totally discounting that there are probably differences between the routers, just saying it's probably not a totally sound & repeatable observation until you use the same equipment in the same place and do repeated back to back tests with comparable f/ws from multiple physical points of observation.

dawson46
10-05-2013, 02:29 PM
Used InSSIDer when they are both running concurrently they use different channels. Doing the testing I used channel 1 (oddly only 1 cochannel) and 157 and had the opposite device powered down.

Poseidon
10-05-2013, 04:58 PM
...............

PrivateJoker
10-05-2013, 05:39 PM
Used InSSIDer when they are both running concurrently they use different channels. Doing the testing I used channel 1 (oddly only 1 cochannel) and 157 and had the opposite device powered down.

Right, did you measure them when they were in the same place in physical space set on the same channel, measured from the same place?

And you mention "cochannel" 2.4ghz channels it sounds like one or both devices might be using 40mhz channels? 2 APs in same RF space cannot both be on 40mhz wide non-overlapping frequency spectrum.

Mavin
10-06-2013, 05:16 PM
While I'm sure the new AC68U is a great router - but according to RMerlin, it's pretty much identical to the AC66U. .

Does not seem identical to me?

http://i.imgur.com/CPbnMg6.png

RMerlin
10-06-2013, 05:21 PM
Without knowing their methodology (which could be different between devices), this isn't of much help. I'd wait for Tim's in-depth review personally, at least he fully discloses his methodology, which ensures that you are comparing apples with apples.

Mavin
10-06-2013, 05:23 PM
Without knowing their methodology (which could be different between devices), this isn't of much help. I'd wait for Tim's in-depth review personally, at least he fully discloses his methodology, which ensures that you are comparing apples with apples.

Ah ok. My Newegg preorder comes on Tuesday anyway. Upgrading from the RT-N16, will be a nice upgrade regardless.

DaveMishSr
10-07-2013, 12:19 AM
To test apples to apples are you comparing placing them in the same point of reference (one at a time) and using the same channel settings at that physical place? Even moving one just 50-100ft away you have uncontrolled RF (or even the RF that you are producing) and non-identical signal pathways. The wifi bands have some seriously different transmission & reflection properties through different building materials, even rotating your AP 90 in place can yield different RSSI & throughput.

I'm not totally discounting that there are probably differences between the routers, just saying it's probably not a totally sound & repeatable observation until you use the same equipment in the same place and do repeated back to back tests with comparable f/ws from multiple physical points of observation.
I have seen the same issue. My RT-AC68U is great with the 2.4 GHz band but the 5 GHz band performance is not as good as my old RT-AC66U. The settings are identical with regard to channel, etc. However, for some reason the 68's 5 GHz band suffers from greater attenuation than the 66's.

netmik3
10-07-2013, 07:12 AM
Does the 68u have an sd card slot? I really hope they kept it. It was a great surprise.

reallynotnick
10-07-2013, 01:06 PM
Does the 68u have an sd card slot? I really hope they kept it. It was a great surprise.

There is no SD card slot and there was no SD card slot on the ac66u or n66u, so I'm not sure what you are referring to. Maybe you are thinking of a different model?

EDIT: I was mistaken about the n66u, didn't realize there was a hidden one on the inside. Now I understand why it was a "surprise".

DaveMishSr
10-07-2013, 02:05 PM
There is no SD card slot and there was no SD card slot on the ac66u or n66u, so I'm not sure what you are referring to. Maybe you are thinking of a different model?
The RT-N66U had an internal SD card slot. Not sure about the RT-AC66U or the RT-AC68U.

RMerlin
10-07-2013, 02:23 PM
Only the RT-N66U had one.

Asmodian
10-07-2013, 05:44 PM
I have seen the same issue. My RT-AC68U is great with the 2.4 GHz band but the 5 GHz band performance is not as good as my old RT-AC66U. The settings are identical with regard to channel, etc. However, for some reason the 68's 5 GHz band suffers from greater attenuation than the 66's.

That is odd, I have exactly the opposite experience. I have had much better 5Ghz performance on my RT-AC68U compared to my older RT-AC66U. I pulled the rt-ac66u and replaced it with the 68 in the same place and position. I had spent a long time fiddling with antenna placement on the RT-AC66U and just did a quick check on the RT-AC68U. I left both on auto channel and I see one other 5Ghz wifi in the neighborhood.

The RT-AC68U shows a noticeably stronger and much faster 5Ghz signal in the garage (maybe ~60 feet and 3-4 walls) using my Galaxy S4. The 5Ghz wasn't really usable in the garage before the upgrade and I tried fairly hard to get it working because my microwave takes out the 2.4Ghz quite well. Evil Panasonic "Inverter" microwaves, don't they know wifi is more important than more even heat when microwaving. :p

Now that I think about a new microwave would have been cheaper than upgrading the router. :o

pulp
10-07-2013, 06:08 PM
What are we looking for in microwave specs to help in lessening interference? Not all microwaves are created equally? LOL

chunlianghere
10-08-2013, 09:14 AM
new firmware is out!

ASUS RT-AC68U Firmware version 3.0.0.4.374.217
Added:
- 2.4GHz beamforming UI option.
- Roaming assistant: allow to set the minimum RSSI to disconnect clients and let clients reconnect to Ap with better signal.
- Enhanced the USB and NAT throughput.

Fixed:
- Fixed quick internet setup UI issues when setup the router by wireless client.
- Fixed WPS push button related issues.
- Fixed IPv6 related issues.

Asmodian
10-08-2013, 04:37 PM
What are we looking for in microwave specs to help in lessening interference? Not all microwaves are created equally? LOL

The Panasonic Inverter line uses a much faster pulse rate, normal microwaves use 60 Hz pulses and the Inverters use 20 KHz to 45 KHz pulses. This improves the efficiency and allows better control of the power levels but leaves much smaller gaps in the 2.4 Ghz band for the wifi to use. All wifi knows how to deal with the massive nasty blanketing with noise of the 2.4 GHz space caused by a normal microwave because the gaps are big enough to transmit in when pulsed at 60 Hz. At 20 KHz there isn't enough room/time for wifi to get much done during the gaps. This is very noticeable in how well devices trying to use the 2.4 GHz band function with the microwave on.
http://educypedia.karadimov.info/library/Inverter.pdf

pulp
10-08-2013, 05:45 PM
Thank you Asmodian!

Mavin
10-08-2013, 06:40 PM
Just got my AC68 and upgraded to the latest firmware.

I have 50 down/10 up internet, and would typically get around 10-15 down and 5 up from my usual browsing position on the couch, using my 2.4 ghz RT-N16 with tomato firmware router.

Now I am getting full 50 down/10 up over wifi on the same 2.4 ghz network, havnt played with the 5ghz yet. Very pleased!

cdd543
10-08-2013, 08:27 PM
new firmware is out!

ASUS RT-AC68U Firmware version 3.0.0.4.374.217
Added:
- 2.4GHz beamforming UI option.
- Roaming assistant: allow to set the minimum RSSI to disconnect clients and let clients reconnect to Ap with better signal.
- Enhanced the USB and NAT throughput.

Fixed:
- Fixed quick internet setup UI issues when setup the router by wireless client.
- Fixed WPS push button related issues.
- Fixed IPv6 related issues.

Hmm I don't see this listed on the site anywhere. The latest I see is 205. I picked one up from best buy today and I'd like to get the latest firmware. Nevermind I found it--only listed under win 8 32 bit...weird.

Sky1111
10-08-2013, 09:18 PM
happy owners of AC68U, can you please check something for me?
I want to know what are the default CPU/memory clocks

And does anyone know what kind of memory AC68U is using?

the reason I am asking is that on AC56 (identical CPU), ASUS downclocked the memory from 800MHz to 533MHz (why would you cripple the performance??? there is no power or heat issues for memory to run at the rated speed!).

From personal experience I can confirm that going from 533 to 800 makes very noticeable difference...may be this is the reason that R7000 scores significantly faster on things like USB transfers...

command to run is nvram get clkfreq

Stock AC56U spits out 800,533
Stock R7000: 1000,800
Stock AC68U: ???

Mavin
10-08-2013, 09:41 PM
happy owners of AC68U, can you please check something for me?
I want to know what are the default CPU/memory clocks

And does anyone know what kind of memory AC68U is using?

the reason I am asking is that on AC56 (identical CPU), ASUS downclocked the memory from 800MHz to 533MHz (why would you cripple the performance??? there is no power or heat issues for memory to run at the rated speed!).

From personal experience I can confirm that going from 533 to 800 makes very noticeable difference...may be this is the reason that R7000 scores significantly faster on things like USB transfers...

command to run is nvram set clkfreq

Stock AC56U spits out 800,533
Stock R7000: 1000,800
Stock AC68U: ???

where do I run the command?

Sky1111
10-08-2013, 10:11 PM
where do I run the command?

If you are running stock firmware, you will need to enable telnet and connect to the router using telnet, and executing the command in the telnet window.

have a look here if it helps: http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Telnet/SSH_and_the_Command_Line

On Merlin firmware you just navigate to http://192.168.1.1/Tools_RunCmd.asp

(unfortunately no Merlin FW is available for RT-AC68U - the damn router is not yet available in Canada :( )

janosek
10-08-2013, 10:18 PM
I would really like to know if the CTF on the RT-AC68U improves performance significantly or not. I know there is a penalty on the RT-AC66U with it disabled. Is there a penalty to have it disabled on the 68u?

Mavin
10-08-2013, 10:21 PM
I would really like to know if the CTF on the RT-AC68U improves performance significantly or not. I know there is a penalty on the RT-AC66U with it disabled. Is there a penalty to have it disabled on the 68u?

what is ctf?

Mavin
10-08-2013, 10:22 PM
If you are running stock firmware, you will need to enable telnet and connect to the router using telnet, and executing the command in the telnet window.

have a look here if it helps: http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Telnet/SSH_and_the_Command_Line

On Merlin firmware you just navigate to http://192.168.1.1/Tools_RunCmd.asp

(unfortunately no Merlin FW is available for RT-AC68U - the damn router is not yet available in Canada :( )

Hmm might be over my head.

janosek
10-08-2013, 10:32 PM
Cut through forwarding. Its the hardware acceleration. It is not enabled on DD-WRT.

RMerlin
10-09-2013, 12:20 AM
If you are running stock firmware, you will need to enable telnet and connect to the router using telnet, and executing the command in the telnet window.

have a look here if it helps: http://www.dd-wrt.com/wiki/index.php/Telnet/SSH_and_the_Command_Line

On Merlin firmware you just navigate to http://192.168.1.1/Tools_RunCmd.asp


A similar page exists on the stock firmware:

http://192.168.1.1/Main_AdmStatus_Content.asp

And it"s nvram get, NOT set.

RMerlin
10-09-2013, 12:21 AM
I would really like to know if the CTF on the RT-AC68U improves performance significantly or not. I know there is a penalty on the RT-AC66U with it disabled. Is there a penalty to have it disabled on the 68u?

Yes. On an RT-AC56U, WAN to LAN maxes out at around 240 Mbits without CTF. I expect the same results on the RT-AC68U since it's the same CPU.

Sky1111
10-09-2013, 02:09 AM
A similar page exists on the stock firmware:

http://192.168.1.1/Main_AdmStatus_Content.asp

And it"s nvram get, NOT set.

Thanks Merlin - this is a very neat trick! I did not know that :)

So you can overclock the router even using ASUS stock firmware?

llc00ljoel
10-09-2013, 02:37 AM
happy owners of AC68U, can you please check something for me?
I want to know what are the default CPU/memory clocks

And does anyone know what kind of memory AC68U is using?

the reason I am asking is that on AC56 (identical CPU), ASUS downclocked the memory from 800MHz to 533MHz (why would you cripple the performance??? there is no power or heat issues for memory to run at the rated speed!).

From personal experience I can confirm that going from 533 to 800 makes very noticeable difference...may be this is the reason that R7000 scores significantly faster on things like USB transfers...

command to run is nvram get clkfreq

Stock AC56U spits out 800,533
Stock R7000: 1000,800
Stock AC68U: ???

Stock AC68U: 800,533

Sky1111
10-09-2013, 02:55 AM
Stock AC68U: 800,533

Thanks - and I am disappointed in ASUS to tell the truth... they better have a very good reason to choose lower clocks for memory.

For owners of AC68: if you are are not interested in overclocking your router (mainly CPU), you still can squeeze more performance out it by setting memory to run at 800MHz (real speed 1600):

$ nvram set clkfreq=800,800
$ nvram commit && reboot

These commands will keep the CPU (and thermals) at stock level, while forcing memory from 533 to 800 - in theory, should not impact thermals as no additional voltage is needed (or possible)

(P.S. You should be able to achieve 1200Mhz on CPU with active cooling - i.e. 1200/800)

WARNING: attempts to set clocks outside of manufacturer setting may result in bricking of your router. See AC56U overclocking thread - we already have one case...

janosek
10-09-2013, 09:02 AM
Yes. On an RT-AC56U, WAN to LAN maxes out at around 240 Mbits without CTF. I expect the same results on the RT-AC68U since it's the same CPU.



Thanks! That makes any decision to upgrade easier. The Netgear looks pretty solid, but I would miss your firmware too much. I will wait until Asus irons out the performance issues Tim has found with the RT-AC68U.

netmik3
10-09-2013, 09:40 AM
Damn it. Why would they include a cool surprise, get me used to it then stop.

Only the RT-N66U had one.

RMerlin
10-09-2013, 09:44 AM
Damn it. Why would they include a cool surprise, get me used to it then stop.

The RT-N66U went through a lot of changes before the final version got shipped. I remember the original name was different (RT-N76 I think? It's been so long) with even higher specs. Then it morphed into the RT-N66U with cooling fans and sd slot. And revision B1 (which was the final release) replaced the fans with a very large heatsink, and somehow got to keep its card reader.

JGrana
10-09-2013, 10:04 AM
Stock AC68U: 800,533

Stock AC66U says 600,300,150

DaveMishSr
10-09-2013, 02:44 PM
Hmm I don't see this listed on the site anywhere. The latest I see is 205. I picked one up from best buy today and I'd like to get the latest firmware. Nevermind I found it--only listed under win 8 32 bit...weird.
Well that's great. I downloaded and installed 374.217 yesterday and am running Win7 64-bit. Do I need to downgrade to 374.205?

apenney
10-09-2013, 03:11 PM
new firmware is out!

ASUS RT-AC68U Firmware version 3.0.0.4.374.217
Added:
- 2.4GHz beamforming UI option.
- Roaming assistant: allow to set the minimum RSSI to disconnect clients and let clients reconnect to Ap with better signal.
- Enhanced the USB and NAT throughput.

Fixed:
- Fixed quick internet setup UI issues when setup the router by wireless client.
- Fixed WPS push button related issues.
- Fixed IPv6 related issues.

Has anyone managed to download this? Mine arrived with "3.0.0.4.374_158-g36ce605" which seems to be a prerelease or something. I can't find 217 on the website anywhere however.

Edit: By that I mean it's on the site but clicking it fails to find the file.

RMerlin
10-09-2013, 03:18 PM
They either pulled it, or it hasn't been fully propagated to all mirrors yet. Just give them some time.

RMerlin
10-09-2013, 03:19 PM
Well that's great. I downloaded and installed 374.217 yesterday and am running Win7 64-bit. Do I need to downgrade to 374.205?

The OS version is irrelevant. The firmware is OS-agnostic.

Personally I always look them up through "Others".

mistax
10-09-2013, 03:47 PM
=( im so lost at the moment so which router to buy. I recently returned my all in ubee modem back to timewarner and moved to a sb6141, but my old wrt54g can't handle the 50/5 speeds. Originally was set on buying an AC68 to just move up to newer tech, but i'm not sure if i should buy one or just go grab a n66u now. Also need it soon since my linksys can't handle it xD.

mikeg
10-09-2013, 04:18 PM
I am going to try the Linksys EA6900 aand compare it against a AC68U which I hopefully will get in the end of the month. My test rigg will get really full by then.

=( im so lost at the moment so which router to buy. I recently returned my all iand see how it stands up against a AC68U which I will get in the end of the month,n ubee modem back to timewarner and moved to a sb6141, but my old wrt54g can't handle the 50/5 speeds. Originally was set on buying an AC68 to just move up to newer tech, but i'm not sure if i should buy one or just go grab a n66u now. Also need it soon since my linksys can't handle it xD.

RMerlin
10-09-2013, 05:15 PM
=( im so lost at the moment so which router to buy. I recently returned my all in ubee modem back to timewarner and moved to a sb6141, but my old wrt54g can't handle the 50/5 speeds. Originally was set on buying an AC68 to just move up to newer tech, but i'm not sure if i should buy one or just go grab a n66u now. Also need it soon since my linksys can't handle it xD.

There's a flood of second generation 820.11ac coming out these days. My advice is to wait a few weeks and see how things look like once the dust settle. By then you might also determine that you don't need 802.11ac support, or it won't fit your budget.

An RT-N66U would be more than enough to support your 50/5 connection if wireless isn't a priority. An RT-N16 would be too, but I'd recommend going with dual band if you can afford it.

apenney
10-09-2013, 05:50 PM
They either pulled it, or it hasn't been fully propagated to all mirrors yet. Just give them some time.

I managed to nab it off a mirror and it fixed the weird issue I was seeing where my 5gz ssid was failing to connect after a while.

Mavin
10-09-2013, 06:01 PM
There's a flood of second generation 820.11ac coming out these days. My advice is to wait a few weeks and see how things look like once the dust settle. By then you might also determine that you don't need 802.11ac support, or it won't fit your budget.

An RT-N66U would be more than enough to support your 50/5 connection if wireless isn't a priority. An RT-N16 would be too, but I'd recommend going with dual band if you can afford it.

Having just upgraded from an RT-N16 to an RT-AC68u, I am getting dramatically better performance with the 68u. I am getting same as wired download speeds on my 50/10 connection, vs. 15/5 when on the N16. Very pleased with the 68u, and Im sure it will only get better as it matures.

Asmodian
10-09-2013, 06:53 PM
I managed to nab it off a mirror and it fixed the weird issue I was seeing where my 5gz ssid was failing to connect after a while.

It looks like they are pulling it rather than propagating it as it is now missing from OS options it used to be in (at least here). The change log for 3.0.0.4.374.217 looks very good I just wish I could get it somewhere.

ASUS RT-AC68U Firmware version 3.0.0.4.374.217
Added:
- 2.4GHz beamforming UI option.
- Roaming assistant: allow to set the minimum RSSI to disconnect clients and let clients reconnect to Ap with better signal.
- Enhanced the USB and NAT throughput.

Fixed:
- Fixed quick internet setup UI issues when setup the router by wireless client.
- Fixed WPS push button related issues.
- Fixed IPv6 related issues.


If anyone found a working link I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks!

P.S. The little information I have been able to find suggests Asus is pulling the firmware due to bugs, I hope for an update soon but 217 might not be it.

RMerlin
10-09-2013, 06:57 PM
I know that they do have an update coming soon (no date or ETA) that should address some of the most commonly mentionned issues so far.

CoolHandDude
10-09-2013, 06:59 PM
Hi All, if you don't mind I would like to get into this discussion to find out if the RT-AC68U is worth the upgrade from the RT-N66U.

I have the AC68U now and I am using it, upgrade from the N66U. I do notice an increased Wifi coverage by checking the signal with a mobile app versus the N66U. I have the router in the basement and just wanted better coverage if say I connect a device in on the first floor, in the yard or just close by the house. I guess I'm just trying to justify if I did the right thing in buying this upgrade... :)

Or should I return it and go for the Netgear R7000 based on another members review?

Oh and by the way the xxxxx.217 version for the AC68U breaks IPv6 connectivity as for what I have seen as I have down graded to xxxx.205 version and all is well again.

PrivateJoker
10-09-2013, 07:22 PM
Hi All, if you don't mind I would like to get into this discussion to find out if the RT-AC68U is worth the upgrade from the RT-N66U.

I have the AC68U now and I am using it, upgrade from the N66U. I do notice an increased Wifi coverage by checking the signal with a mobile app versus the N66U. I have the router in the basement and just wanted better coverage if say I connect a device in on the first floor, in the yard or just close by the house. I guess I'm just trying to justify if I did the right thing in buying this upgrade... :)

Or should I return it and go for the Netgear R7000 based on another members review?

Oh and by the way the xxxxx.217 version for the AC68U breaks IPv6 connectivity as for what I have seen as I have down graded to xxxx.205 version and all is well again.

A mobile device probably isn't going to be able to flex the multi stream muscle of any AP and really can't show you how strong it's going to be for other devices for better wifi.

Probably one place to start for a better signal would be to get the router out of the basement on to the first floor. Ideally an elevated spot.

mistax
10-09-2013, 07:26 PM
There's a flood of second generation 820.11ac coming out these days. My advice is to wait a few weeks and see how things look like once the dust settle. By then you might also determine that you don't need 802.11ac support, or it won't fit your budget.

An RT-N66U would be more than enough to support your 50/5 connection if wireless isn't a priority. An RT-N16 would be too, but I'd recommend going with dual band if you can afford it.

Ended up picking up the N66u and going to flash it later tonight, but so far it works great with all my gadget and etc. a bit spotty for downstairs. But i have 2-3 weeks if i don't like it i can return and grab an ac68u. It's pretty funny, but i think if i didn't plug my old dlink 614 into the wrong ac adapter id still be using a router from like 2000.

geops
10-09-2013, 11:51 PM
I got my RT-AC68U today and I have an issue. I am runing the 205 firmware since they've removed 217. Most of the things work fine including tunnelbroker ipv6 connection. However, port forwarding doesn't seem to work. I add the the rules and the ports show as forwarded but connections cannot be established. I was running a RT-N66U in that same place with the same forwarding rules worked perfectly fine. Anyone else having this issue?

RMerlin
10-10-2013, 12:49 AM
I doubt there will be a big difference in coverage between the AC68 and the N66. Check Tim's review if you want to compare them, he's got all the details of speed vs range.

chamberc
10-10-2013, 01:49 AM
I got my RT-AC68U today and I have an issue. I am runing the 205 firmware since they've removed 217. Most of the things work fine including tunnelbroker ipv6 connection. However, port forwarding doesn't seem to work. I add the the rules and the ports show as forwarded but connections cannot be established. I was running a RT-N66U in that same place with the same forwarding rules worked perfectly fine. Anyone else having this issue?

Ditto same here. My 68 replaced an Ac66u and port forwarding worked fine. Seems the FW is borked.

My coverage is noticeably better than my AC66u measured with WIFI analyzer.

geops
10-10-2013, 02:07 AM
Ditto same here. My 68 replaced an Ac66u and port forwarding worked fine. Seems the FW is borked.

My coverage is noticeably better than my AC66u measured with WIFI analyzer.

I'm glad the issue is not on my end. I even did a factory restore and it didn't help. I hope they come out with a fix soon. I have like 10 services behind this router.

GoNz0
10-10-2013, 03:32 AM
anyone considering the Netgear over the Asus needs a frontal lobotomy, Netgear support is beyond poor. This is why I am now an ASUS customer!

sm00thpapa
10-10-2013, 04:16 AM
I am also loyal to Asus but I won't be getting the AC68U anytime soon as I have no need for it. My trusty N66U will suffice for at least the next 2 years. Then maybe I will upgrade to an AC router.

tl2k2
10-10-2013, 04:18 AM
anyone considering the Netgear over the Asus needs a frontal lobotomy, Netgear support is beyond poor. This is why I am now an ASUS customer!

i'm 100 percents agree with you, after owned 4 netgears router and router/dsl combo.

babgvant
10-10-2013, 04:53 AM
anyone considering the Netgear over the Asus needs a frontal lobotomy, Netgear support is beyond poor. This is why I am now an ASUS customer!

I haven't ever needed to use NETGEAR's support so I can't comment on their relative merits, but ASUS support is abysmal. I wouldn't buy their kit w/ any expectation that the software will be supported in any meaningful way.

Royal2000H
10-10-2013, 05:23 AM
I understand that those with pretty modern routers or with n66u's (and more so ac66u's) likely don't need to upgrade to the ac68u right now, but how about someone who needs a router right now anyway? I know Tim was saying no use in future proofing. But really, if we keep the router for several years, surely the upgrade to ac + better processor and beam forming should be worth the $70 price difference, no?

Also if I get an ac router, I'm thinking to upgrade my laptop's wifi chip to the Intel 7260ngw.

Mavin
10-10-2013, 10:30 AM
I understand that those with pretty modern routers or with n66u's (and more so ac66u's) likely don't need to upgrade to the ac68u right now, but how about someone who needs a router right now anyway? I know Tim was saying no use in future proofing. But really, if we keep the router for several years, surely the upgrade to ac + better processor and beam forming should be worth the $70 price difference, no?

Also if I get an ac router, I'm thinking to upgrade my laptop's wifi chip to the Intel 7260ngw.

I was in your situation, upgrading from an RT-N16. The prices were close enough, and I don't buy routers frequently enough, that it seemed silly to "settle" on the N66 and went with the AC68.

If you checkout through the newegg mobile site, use this for 10% off:

MBLMOBILE10

Brings the AC68u to $200

chamberc
10-10-2013, 10:30 AM
I'm glad the issue is not on my end. I even did a factory restore and it didn't help. I hope they come out with a fix soon. I have like 10 services behind this router.

After about 6 hours, the port forwarding started working. Very strange behavior. No reboots, nothing.

reallynotnick
10-10-2013, 11:06 AM
While I realize I shouldn't take these early Amazon reviews too seriously, the one issue I have seen twice is that this router like the ac66u needs to be rebooted a lot to keep the 5ghz working at top speed. I've never heard of this issue on the ac66u, but was wondering if there was any merit to this claim?

geops
10-10-2013, 01:22 PM
After about 6 hours, the port forwarding started working. Very strange behavior. No reboots, nothing.

Mine still doesn't work after a whole night. I'm quite disappointed as this is an official firmware.

chamberc
10-10-2013, 02:51 PM
Mine still doesn't work after a whole night. I'm quite disappointed as this is an official firmware.

I've done quite a bit of experimenting, and have found that the ports do eventually open on mine, but lag anywhere from 30 minutes to 6 hours before they start working.

Just for grins, I plugged my AC66U running Merlin's latest, back in and it fired up the port forwarding immediately after boot.

Very strange behavior.

Royal2000H
10-10-2013, 03:08 PM
I was in your situation, upgrading from an RT-N16. The prices were close enough, and I don't buy routers frequently enough, that it seemed silly to "settle" on the N66 and went with the AC68.

If you checkout through the newegg mobile site, use this for 10% off:

MBLMOBILE10

Brings the AC68u to $200

Thanks for this. I'm hesitant of newegg though because of their restocking fee. It seems to make more sense to buy from best buy or frys so I can return it at no charge. I wonder if they price match to coupons?

PrivateJoker
10-10-2013, 03:47 PM
Thanks for this. I'm hesitant of newegg though because of their restocking fee. It seems to make more sense to buy from best buy or frys so I can return it at no charge. I wonder if they price match to coupons?

Same price @ Amazon, but no coupons offered. Amazon is awesome w/ returns, no prob ever, no restocking fee.

PS - thanks @Mavin for sharing that newegg coupon! I'm gonna use it for an extra HD.

mistax
10-10-2013, 04:57 PM
this thread =( making me want to return the n66u on sat and just grab a ac68u xD.

geops
10-10-2013, 06:00 PM
I've done quite a bit of experimenting, and have found that the ports do eventually open on mine, but lag anywhere from 30 minutes to 6 hours before they start working.

Just for grins, I plugged my AC66U running Merlin's latest, back in and it fired up the port forwarding immediately after boot.

Very strange behavior.

I found the actual problem. The port forwarding works from external networks. However, when you're on the local network and use the external address as if you were away (for uniformity) the request is delivered to the machine and port but the reply is never received. This is a weird problem and is most likely somewhere in iptables. This used to work fine on N66U.

chamberc
10-10-2013, 06:03 PM
I found the actual problem. The port forwarding works from external networks. However, when you're on the local network and use the external address as if you were away (for uniformity) the request is delivered to the machine and port but the reply is never received. This is a weird problem and is most likely somewhere in iptables. This used to work fine on N66U.

You are exactly correct. I can access the resources forwarded externally, but not within the LAN... hopefully they fix this quickly.

apenney
10-10-2013, 06:14 PM
Quick question in case anyone knows (I can't test it myself as I don't have an ethernet dongle for this laptop to fix things if I break it). I wanted to enable mac filtering on the guest network (so I can limit the kids) but it seems like I have to enable mac filtering globally per channel.

Does it default to block all? I didn't want to filter anything on my main ssid, just on the guest network. I may try and iptables it by hand as I think you can do mac blocking at the iptables level.

RMerlin
10-10-2013, 06:36 PM
I found the actual problem. The port forwarding works from external networks. However, when you're on the local network and use the external address as if you were away (for uniformity) the request is delivered to the machine and port but the reply is never received. This is a weird problem and is most likely somewhere in iptables. This used to work fine on N66U.

Asus's NAT loopback is a bit quirky. They flat out NAT any LAN connections, while my implementation (actually Phuzi0n's from the DD-WRT forums) will tag traffic that has to get through the NAT loopback specifically.

Maybe that's the reason why you get different results between my firmware and the original firmware on the AC68U.

geops
10-10-2013, 06:48 PM
Asus's NAT loopback is a bit quirky. They flat out NAT any LAN connections, while my implementation (actually Phuzi0n's from the DD-WRT forums) will tag traffic that has to get through the NAT loopback specifically.

Maybe that's the reason why you get different results between my firmware and the original firmware on the AC68U.

But it worked fine with the original ASUS firmware on the N66U. They have changed something in this new firmware for the AC68U. I have submitted a support ticket. Hopefully they will take this into consideration for the next firmware.

I saw the local to local masquerade rule for br0 and removed it manually. The problem persists. I changed the other masquerade rule to be any to any -o eth0 and the problem persists. Can't find the exact source of the problem. The connections are not dropped, they just timeout. I think the ports are actually forwarded correctly but the response is not masked and de-masked correctly to be received.

And there is one more issue: As soon as I add an ipv6 tunnel I start getting these mesages constantly in the system log:
Oct 10 17:12:51 kernel: pch ==NULL.

P.S. RMerlin, did you get an AC68U and are you planning on releasing your firmware for it anytime soon?

chamberc
10-10-2013, 07:02 PM
Asus's NAT loopback is a bit quirky. They flat out NAT any LAN connections, while my implementation (actually Phuzi0n's from the DD-WRT forums) will tag traffic that has to get through the NAT loopback specifically.

Maybe that's the reason why you get different results between my firmware and the original firmware on the AC68U.

That makes sense. I have various devices on the LAN that have subdomain addresses that can be accessed via subdomain.domain.com. I can access them fine externally, but not internally on 68 vs the ac66.

If I use the IP's while on the LAN, I reach the devices just fine.

luckiweeman
10-10-2013, 09:13 PM
Weird..After being missing for a day or so the .217 firmware is back on support site. Only listed under Win 8 64bit. Still missing for other OS's listed.

reallynotnick
10-10-2013, 10:10 PM
Weird..After being missing for a day or so the .217 firmware is back on support site. Only listed under Win 8 64bit. Still missing for other OS's listed.

I tried downloading it an hour ago but the link was dead. It seems to be gone again. Personally I am going to wait for a newer revision as I think there is clearly something wrong with .217 if they pulled it.

Otherwise initial impressions of the router are great, mind you I came from probably one of the cheapest D-Link single band one stream N router. I know the 68U was complete overkill for me, but living in an apartment with tons of 2.4ghz devices it is nice not having to worry. Though I'm sticking on 5Ghz for devices that can support it as there is less interference as no one seems to be using 5Ghz here vs the 25 2.4Ghz I can pick up.

speedbucket
10-10-2013, 10:36 PM
Anyone is having issue with their AC68U's USB 3.0 port?

I have a 3.5" 2TB HD in an external enclosure with USB 3.0. When I plugged the HD in the USB 3.0 port .. nothing happen, the USB3.0 LED doesn't even turn on.
It works when I plug it in the USB 2.0 port.

So I thought it was the USB 3.0 port but it works fine when I plugged my 2.5" 1TB WD USB 3.0 external HD.

:confused:

greggy101
10-10-2013, 10:58 PM
Anyone is having issue with their AC68U's USB 3.0 port?

I have a 3.5" 2TB HD in an external enclosure with USB 3.0. When I plugged the HD in the USB 3.0 port .. nothing happen, the USB3.0 LED doesn't even turn on.
It works when I plug it in the USB 2.0 port.

So I thought it was the USB 3.0 port but it works fine when I plugged my 2.5" 1TB WD USB 3.0 external HD.

:confused:

Same problem here. I have 256GB SSD on USB3.0 - was able to get it mounted once and than it dropped after an hour or so.
Works fine on USB2.0
:(

RMerlin
10-11-2013, 12:52 AM
P.S. RMerlin, did you get an AC68U and are you planning on releasing your firmware for it anytime soon?

No ETA at this time.

MaX PL
10-11-2013, 10:02 AM
So i'm getting my AC68U delivered today from amazon.
Like others have said, reading some of the reviews on amazon is leaving me slightly disappointed, but only slightly. It seems like alot of people are putting alot of weight in the SNB ranking and going with the R7000.

I actually prefer the look of the R7000, but will keep the AC68U as I have more faith in ASUS firmware upgrades and community support for the router.

But I do hope ASUS does something big in my first few weeks of ownership, because if this thing crashes as often as some say, I may jump to Netgear.

Hi All,

There will be a firmware update soon that will address some of the issues users have experienced on the RT-AC68U, such as slow USB 3.0 performance and inconsistent 2.4ghz connectivity. The update may be available as early as next week. If anyone has any concerns or feedback regarding the RT-AC68U, please feel free to contact us at Networking_support@asus.com.

-Asus Networking Support

and i just found this post over in the comparison thread on the front page, so it'll be interesting how this firmware improves things.